I once heard a wise man say there are no perfect men. only perfect intentions. no, this is mount everest. you should flip on the discovery channel from time to time. but i guess you can't now, being dead and all. i don't think they tried to market it to the billionaire, spelunking, base-jumping crowd. boxing is about respect. getting it for yourself, and taking it away from the other guy. multiply your anger by about a hundred, kate, that's how much he thinks he loves you. bruce...